Thursday 14 October 2010

are christian stand-ups too safe?

Been thinking about comedy. I’m a big fan of mock the week. Especially hugh dennis. He’s a superb and hilarious actor. I especially used to like his double act with Frankie boyle, where boyle would feed the ‘PR’ line from some politician or other public figures’ mouth, and hugh would say what they really meant. The pause before he delivered the line, the razor wit of the actual punchline, the narrowing of the eyes after he said it which self-mockingly seems to say ‘is that what I meant to say?.. is that quite good enough?’… brilliant.
And I’m intrigued by Milton jones, one of the guest panellists. He’s a Christian – was a star turn at greenbelt, where he was a big fish in a small pond. On mock the week he’s a smaller fish in a bigger pond. He’s certainly different from the rest. An absurd, surreal brand of humour, and very pun and word play based. Like tim vine, another Christian one liner merchant. But something bothers me about them both. Does their Christian standpoint, which keeps their humour very clean, also make it too safe? No swearing, no attacks on public figures… and no satire. An intriguing question. The others show a greater freedom to be dark, edgy and let’s face it sometimes a bit dirty. And I find them often hilarious. Whereas with Milton, the need to be clean can sometimes feel like an inhibitor, leaving me wondering when he’s about to say something… will this actually be very funny? To be continued…

6 comments:

Billy said...

It's not the same without Frankie.

I don't hink a comedian has to be anything in particular - other than funny of course. Not heard of this guy, so don't know if he's funny, but we don't all laugh at the same things. If you personally want to be edgy, I dare you to put Frankie's top ten jokes on your blog :-)

Anonymous said...

>>> Does their Christian standpoint, which keeps their humour very clean, also make it too safe?

Time Vine isn't funny. The problem here is, as always, your conflation of Christian with 'Nice Middle-Class MOR Heterosexist Evangementalism'. See also Michael McIntyre, who, if he isn't sponsored by Waitrose or the Alpha Course, really ought to be. I'm reminded of the way Wesley Owen was full of talentless screwballs releasing 'Christian' rap (!) because they wouldn't last five minutes in a real business. Satire arguably flows most naturally from distrust of authority - including God ? - but obviously there's a long tradition of great Christian (but not evangementalist) comedians. Although personally I do find Mark Driscoll (and , Billy, G.D.F. ;-)) utterly , albeit unintentionally, hilarious.

The hilarious Frankie Boyle's a Jungle Jim, which does prove that God, in His Mercy, gives talents and graces to the undeserving ;-)

Anonymous said...

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dr rant said...

People who have a sacred view of the world - ie; that some things are worthy and other things are not have in general little time for humour. They are interested in implementing a form - a way of living. They know how things ought to be to it is merely a question of putting them rigourously into practice. Their praxis is a means to power through in effect sacrifice.

Such "types" do not relish humour - what time would they have to celebration the implicit confusion of our existance and or the boundaryness nature of reality. Cold prigs dont laugh. Indeed it is a very good way to spot them. Either they dont laugh or they laugh at the confusions implict inside reduced social systems - they like puns or some god-forsaken minitures as old marx brothers films.

I like duck soup the best...

Lisa said...

I wish I knew British comedians so I could comment on this better. I love Jim Gaffigan and he has some funny pieces on Jesus... for example...Jesus gets socks for Xmas and his response is "er.. umm... you do know I'm goig to die for the sins of the world?" or the other one, "What if Jesus was a bad carpenter...? They'd all be saying 'sure glad that Messiah thing worked out for him'" I find him quite funny and cute. I think the ability to laugh at ourselves is what makes us human and approachable and even reasonable.

Unknown said...

It's interesting isn't it... is it because the culture don't like Christians who blur the lines, or is it because the Christians play safe.... is it because Christians who are social commentators go into ministry or focus on the church...like Adrian Plass. It's not an easy life, and is tough to get seen. I know a few female comics who are struggling with how blokey to be, or whether they need to choose another way of expressing their comedy... let alone adding the Christianity into that mix.

It is happening... check out the Laughing Sole in Birmingham. I think Milton Jones and Tim Vine are great...there are others, but not so high profile.... yet! Or others who don't talk about their faith...