Well this ol' blog has been a bit quiet of late, so here are my latest radio script offerings exploring some of the spiritual ideas suggested by Doctor Who, to be bedded in the famous music and hopefully playing soon. I voice them, having worked on my David Tennant...
1. Now one of the things about being the Doctor is that people are sometimes amazed how cocky I can be around some frankly very scary creatures. To be honest a lot of this is just bravado and down to the fact that I can tell better jokes than your average dalek (but don't tell them I said that). But you know what, these creatures I meet are frankly nothing compared to some of the things you humans have to put up with: rising house prices, threat of recession… Anne Robinson. Scarier than anything you could dress up in a green suit if you ask me. Still, from what I've heard you've also got the greatest being in the universe rooting for you. And you can actually get his help - just by. praying to him. Wouldn't mind a bit of that myself sometimes - even if I am a Timelord.
2. Now you might think that being a Timelord must get a bit lonely at times - you know, 902 years old, last of my kind and all that, keep having to get new companions. And I can't deny sometimes I feel it'd be nice to settle down, have a family, bit of stability, you know… instead of constantly flying across galaxies and circumnavigating the 42nd radial asteroid parabular (that was a nightmare). I have to say though, even I feel a bit put in the shade by the One you call the Son of God. I mean, to leave somewhere called HEAVEN – to come and live among you humans - no disrespect, but that makes time and space travel look like, well, flower arranging. The thing that’s a mystery - even to me – is frankly why he doesn’t get a bit more attention.
3. Now being the Doctor, I’m not going to pretend that one of the perks of the job isn’t the Tardis. I don’t care what kind of motor you’ve got, if you can say you get around in something called ‘Time and relative dimensions in space’, I know who the girls will want to talk to. Obviously what gets people is how something which looks so small and ordinary on the outside can be so big and, well, extraordinary on the inside. It does have its downsides – maintaining the thing’s a nightmare… but you know what, it’s not unlike some things you humans talk about – like ‘faith’, for instance. Looks very ordinary and unassuming on the outside – some people wonder if it’s even real, but when you actually try it for yourself, get inside it, start to live it - that’s a whole different ball game.
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The thing that’s a mystery - even to me – is frankly why he doesn’t get a bit more attention.
Lack of evidence mate! What has he actually done that I can verify?
Hi Bruce,
If has been a while... time is short (I’m no time lord HA!) so a few more of my classic bullet points you love so well.
Hope you don't think I'm being too short - happy to discuss them more if you like, just busy at the mo.
I voice them, having worked on my David Tennant...
So does this mean you also have to lose your Scottish accent?
Now I’m assuming these words are your creation, and never appeared in a Dr Who show (if they did, can we have references please) I’ll take a look at them for ‘accuracy’, to see if they are ‘in character’ of the good doctor.
You can say what you like about ‘my god’ but not the good doctor :)
Still, from what I've heard you've also got the greatest being in the universe rooting for you. And you can actually get his help - just by. praying to him. Wouldn't mind a bit of that myself sometimes - even if I am a Timelord.
Only ‘heard’? No real evidence available to even a Timelord? Funny that - talk about being hidden.
“greatest being in the universe”.... in the universe? Not outside it... funny how descriptions of God changes with the wind.
“just by praying”... we can get ‘get His help’ – excellent, we can test this I am sure (and there you were saying that God couldn’t be tested)
And this is just on point 1?
Point 2 is just based on an unproven (and unknowable?) assumption about Jesus and heaven (and this is from a Timelord who has only ‘heard’ of God)
Point 3... well, this is the interesting one since it is about faith.
”maintaining the thing’s a nightmare… but you know what, it’s not unlike some things you humans talk about – like ‘faith’, for instance.
I bet the good doctor can think of a use of his Tardis, certainly will have evidence for it and how to determine his Tardis from, say, a telephone box.
Have you yet been able to demonstrate (even to yourself) the usefulness of faith in determining truths in the world?
some people wonder if it’s even real, but when you actually try it for yourself, get inside it, start to live it - that’s a whole different ball game”
Oh, I believe people have faith – over a billion Muslims cannot be wrong and all that :)
Never been shown the requirement for faith over say, evidence :)
With evidence, do you need faith?
Thanks for the post – keep ‘em coming.
Lee
Looks very ordinary and unassuming on the outside – some people wonder if it’s even real, but when you actually try it for yourself, get inside it, start to live it - that’s a whole different ball game.
As someone who tried, I have to disagree with you. I hope you will ammend this statement - it is extremely misleading to say the least.
RE: "The thing that’s a mystery - even to me – is frankly why he doesn’t get a bit more attention."
Billy wrote:
Lack of evidence mate! What has he actually done that I can verify?
Good point. Why should we give more attention to something that we have not seen?
It doesn't make sense. Should we give more attention to Zeus, Woden and Apollo while we are at it?
Given the evidence we would, by definition, be giving him more attention - not our fault then the evidence is not there (and I get bored of being told I am ‘ignoring the evidence’ that 'they' see)
I ‘ignore’ (though I do not like the term – prioritise or filter could be better) the same evidence the theist does for ALL the other gods, fairies, golems, chocolate tea pots around mars invented by man.
Why should I be blamed for also seeing no value or merit in all the evidence for these other gods PLUS there own ‘evidence’?
Special pleading comes to mind.
Lee
Bruce-
why do you have two "recent comments" widgets on your blog? Stop trying to make yourself look popular! :-)
Did you see Richard Dawkins on Dr Who?
http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,
2793,Richard-Dawkins-on-Dr-Who,Richard-Dawkins
-Dr-Who,page1#201120
Hi Bruce,
I mentioned this thread to the wife last night (while watching Dr Who – the Christmas special... )
She said to me (paraphrasing) “why does the Doctor not have any evidence for Jesus and God and so only ‘heard of him’, couldn’t the doctor just go back in time to speak to Jesus and know the real deal, see the miracles – validate the resurrection for himself and also maybe update the bible with something useful?”
Makes ya think?
The doctor can go anywhere in time and space – but still finds no evidence for God... he he
Maybe the doctor Who idea isn’t a good one when you think about it more.
Creates more problems.
Lee
PS
Do I take my Sci-Fi to serious?
I say not, but I can accept some simple premises and see if when accepting these they logically make sense with the rest of the world.
Dr Who and Jesus don’t mix.
At least we can agree that certainly both don’t exist and at least one is in fact make believe.
A whole differnt ball game ? sounds nice - you mean its not a set of abstract philosophical ideals which demand a internal and unconsequental cognitive act ?
A differnt ball game sounds interesting - a leap out of ourselves perhaps. Watched a bit of the australian movie gabriel the other night. It has an interesting part where gabriel can see the demons until he emptys his perception - clears his mind of himself.
What happens if you dont listen to yourself billy -what do you hear ? What is the opposite of billy and do you think you could ever love him.
Will you spend the rest of your life trying to squeeze the world into something it will never be ? Agendas - does it even matter what you say - is it the sound of argument that is addictive ?
Pleased to see you fun guys are still at it - rattle the cage for me...
Throw a dog a bone...
Thanks for the new comments, sorry for being slow to put them up, I'll try and sort that out in future. Will try and offer some response soon.
Watched a bit of the australian movie gabriel the other night.
Was it Australian? Sh1t – I never noticed, must have been living over here too long :)
I like the film, religion make for the best ‘horror’ movies...
Now, have you seen the recent Australian Macbeth movie? Now THAT is funny...
“Strewth, is that a knife I see before me?”
It has an interesting part where gabriel can see the demons until he emptys his perception - clears his mind of himself.
Erm... I cannot remember that bit of the movie – too much red wine I guess.
What is the opposite of billy
Is that the one with the beard from another dimension? Evil-Billy...?
is it the sound of argument that is addictive ?
Nope, not for me. It is the discussion, debate and learning.
If we all agree, the discussion ends quickly.
Pleased to see you fun guys are still at it - rattle the cage for me...
Throw a dog a bone...
Jimmy, is that really you?
He he
Lee
I'm guessing Anony is Rob,
What happens if you dont listen to yourself billy -what do you hear ? What is the opposite of billy and do you think you could ever love him.
Who says I'm listening to myself? That's a bit presumptous of you isn't it? Still, many people need to make worthless assumptions about others to be able to cling on to their own beliefs. So, where is your god? what has he done that I can verify?
I'm guessing Anony is Rob,
No idea... I thought Jimmy.
Lee
I thought Anon was billys alter ego bursting out...
Rob, dont think, just accept authority - it's the religious way :-)
Oh no it's not :)
(Oh yes it is!... etc)
billy ? what is the sound of one mind thinking...
:)
Oh no it's not :)
(Oh yes it is!... etc)
He's behind you!!!
Lee
seems this blog has reached its logical conclusion....
picked up a book the other day which may interest anyone getting out of this rather maniacal box of point and counterpoint
"after the death of god by caputo and vattimo"
i quote:
"atheism is nothing but the flip side of theism, with neither understanding the true nature of belief, because both according to vattimo's analysis still rely on absolutist claims characteristic of scientific positivism or transcendental authority. now that we live in the postmetaphysical age in which there are no absolute truths, only interpretations, the category of belief can again be taken seriously as constitutive of our lived traditions"
or in paraphrase - i dont believe in christianity but hey it works for me......
hope your all still alive and well
rob
Rob, you have some funny views on atheism there. I dont believe because there is no strong evidence that any god exists - that's a bit different to your quote.
Hi Rob,
or in paraphrase - i dont believe in christianity but hey it works for me......
And then that is good enough for me...
I have repeatedly said, I have no problem what people believe in the comfort of their own home - it is only when this belief starts to affect me do I start to take a real interest.
I have these converstations on blogs merely because the topic interests me and nothing more. Why do people believe what they believe, and what would make they change this belief?
Simple really.
I only talk to those who want to talk about it.
hope your all still alive and well
Last time I checked :)
Lee
I have repeatedly said, I have no problem what people believe in the comfort of their own home - it is only when this belief starts to affect me do I start to take a real interest.
Yes, religious people often seem to not only think what they believe is beyond criticism, but that it should not be criticised - yet demandng it all their own way - that is my problem with religion. If people kept it to themselves, then I have no problem with that. However, tell me that I must not believe in evolution, do not do x y or z, then I have a problem. I also have a problem when the catholic church tries to influence MP on matters of medical research.
Scrutinise a lack of belief in god all you want, I dont care as long as you are honest about it. How many christians reciprocate that out look?
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